21 Aug 2003 | pecky said...

I am guessing it's a project management and billing app - since most of them suck.

21 Aug 2003 | Chris said...

YHM.

However, wouldn't it be good to give *some* idea of what it does?

21 Aug 2003 | JF said...

I can tell you that billing is not involved.

21 Aug 2003 | hurley #1 said...

No use speculating, we might as well just wait and see what it turns out to be.

But in thinking over the kinds of products/services I'd like to see, one would be a Web-based version of something like FogBUGZ, which allows software developers to manage bugs, feature requests, client feedback, etc.

Such a tool would be useful for Web developers, especially far-flung teams, and I think I'd find it useful myself. Does anyone know if anything like that is available? My company developed one for internal use, but it's on Lotus Notes and kind of cumbersome.

21 Aug 2003 | Michael Spina said...

Agreed. We have a home-built PHP version which always gets low priority and is rarely updated.

21 Aug 2003 | pb said...

FogBUGZ promotes itself as being web-based. Are you wishing that a third party hosted it?

21 Aug 2003 | CJ said...

Could this be the "Stuff" manager Jeff hinted at in an April post?

http://www.37signals.com/svn/archives/000167.php

22 Aug 2003 | hurley #1 said...

FogBUGZ promotes itself as being web-based. Are you wishing that a third party hosted it?

Yeah, since FogBUGZ has to be hosted locally on a Windows 2000 server. But my point was more that it would be nice to have something like FogBUGZ that's designed specifically for Web developers. Maybe FogBUGZ is flexible enough that in fact it could be used for this purpose, not just for software development, I don't know. But if so, it's not marketed as a Web development management tool so I bet most people in the field don't know about it.

22 Aug 2003 | Mike said...

href://www.37signals.com/misto

Damnit!

22 Aug 2003 | fajalar said...

With apologies to the folks at Futurama...

Misto guy: "Well my curious friends, you've learned the secret of Misto. That concludes the portion of the tour where you stay alive."

22 Aug 2003 | p8 said...

Does anyone know if anything like that is available?

Bugzilla is pretty famous but you'll need perl.
It is/was being used for Mozilla.

I'm using phpBugtracker myself with redesigned templates, but I'm just starting to use it and it's not focused on websites. Phpbugtracker is based on bugzilla but it doesn't have all the features.

23 Aug 2003 | Robert Morris said...

p8, Bugzilla definitely still *is* being used for Mozilla. ;-)

27 Aug 2003 | Graeme Donald said...

Admit it. It's a new type of Ramen noodle isn't it?

27 Aug 2003 | av said...

Everytime I think of Misto, I get this rumbling in my stomach. mmmmmm Misto is so tasty.

28 Aug 2003 | hurley #1 said...

That's it, that's it! It's miso soup with tea in it (miso + t = misto).

28 Aug 2003 | Paperhead said...

They've gone all culinary on our ass: Misto

28 Aug 2003 | the poster formerly known as fajalar said...

I have, er had a Misto. That claim on their site that "It really works" is true until you have to take it apart and wash it. Then it doesn't work so well.

It was cool while it worked though. Spray oil without aresol(sp?!).

29 Aug 2003 | Don Schenck said...

So ... you've been de-misto-fied?

BWAHAHAHAHA

(sorry)

29 Aug 2003 | the poster formerly known as fajalar said...

The only things sadder than that pun is that I didn't think of it first.