An intense debate about business models, bubbles, capitalism, quality of life, market share vs. profit share, running a business vs. selling a business, and a variety of other related topics from episode 46 of This Week in Startups. This is really good stuff.

(There’s 47 minutes of material before the interview. The video above picks up where the interview starts. The interview is what’s really worth watching.)

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