[Fireside Chats are round table discussions conducted using Campfire.]
The Chatters
Seth Godin (blog)
Mark Hurst (blog)
(Moderated by Matt and Jason from 37signals)
Topics
Topics covered include Google, Apple, JetBlue, the common thread of companies that offer top-notch customer experiences, the GEL conference, zoomers and why they’re important, industries that don’t get it, and more.
Sample quotes
Mark: “Go to the top person…and ask him/her when’s the last time they sat, face to face, with a customer, and let the customer talk – no focus group questions, no usability tasks – just talk about their experience. In many orgs that gets a blank stare – as if to say ‘Customers? i don’t have time for them.’ And there’s your answer.”
Seth: “I think the long term benefits are how you rationalize it to the board and to your investors. But I think that’s not sufficient to drive a true service attitude. That comes from your mom or from something in your make up that makes you want to serve people in what you do all day.”
Seth: “TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! If there’s a problem, fix it. If your job can’t be fixed, quit. How dare you waste your life in exchange for a paycheck. You have high speed internet access, bub, you’ve got no excuse. You don’t live in a hovel in Ghana. Go do it!! Pick up the phone and call someone.”
Mark: “Try to become more aware of experience – whether at work, while using technology, while in a store, in a bank, or wherever. i think the more people are aware of good and bad experiences, the better they are at taking responsibility (re seth’s comment) for creating good experiences where they can.”
Seth |
Matt, did you know that Mark used to work with me? |
Seth |
eons ago |
Matt |
Yeah, back at Yoyodyne, right? |
Mark |
seth gave me my first job out of college & i’ve benefited from that experience ever since |
Matt |
What was it like working together? |
Seth |
Mark is very focused, very very smart (two verys, perhaps exponential) and in those days |
Seth |
very serious. |
Seth |
What was incredibly wonderful was that it didn’t matter what the topic… |
Seth |
I could riff at full speed and he would riff right back |
Mark |
aww shucks, now c’mon |
Matt |
Mark, how was Seth? Anything surprising that we wouldn’t expect? |
Mark |
seth taught me so much – just as importantly he was able to create an environment where a lot of things/learnings/ideas/etc. emerged that only happen in his energy field |
Mark |
surprising, let’s see… |
Mark |
he knows an awful lot about the early days of computer/online gaming (people may think he’s "only" a superior marketing expert) |
Mark |
oh i have something surprising – as much as seth gets done – (if it’s still true as it was in the old days) – he is extremely disciplined about work-life balance – that was a good model for me |
Seth |
The thing that’s hard for people online to remember today is that in the mid 90s, there was a great deal |
Seth |
of disbelief. Basically, most people thought we were insane |
Continued…